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My Life With the Thrill kill Kult
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What did you do?

by StiLLinTruth in

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to all those who have in some way left the organization (be it disfellowshipping, disassociating, dis-whatever):.

come now, i know the amount of people who "realized that wt doctrine was in serious error" and politely handed in their letter of resignation has to be very small.

the level of bitterness and hostility towards the closest-to-what's-biblical organization has to develop some other way.. what did you do?

dark clouds

You are well on your way to becoming the next member of the GB, send in your resume, i believe they are hiring.

Your apparent knowledge of the "truth" clearly marks you above the average R&F of the congegation you belong to. Im surprised your impeccable behavior and attitude has gone unrewarded. Your obvious sincerity and charisma is sure to take you far in the ranks of the elite.

Who knows, perhaps you may even be annointed even, check your mail, actually i heard jehovah upgraded and is now sending emails. Stay posted will you, that t-line of yours is sure to transmit . . .

CHUCK

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How Well Do You Know The Bible?

by dark clouds in

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i want to share a perspective, with everyone that comes here to read, for i feel it will take some of us in a new direction.

perhaps it will allow for some creative thinking and interesting discussion or maybe it simply wont go anywhere.

it does not really matter either way, for there are subjects which can only be speculated on and thoughts which can only be shared.

dark clouds

Perfect Pie:

My postulate on jewish myth has to do with the stories found in the bible, not with the history of the jews. It is beyond evident that the the jews exist, and their history is clearly marked, in documents aside the bible.

As to what i refer as myth, are stories of animals that speak, a woman being converted to salt, a man whose strength comes from his hair, the sun standing still, a sea being parted long enough to move a nation through it and then having it collapse when the enemy goes through, water coming forth from a rock upon request, etc., In essence, the far fetched stories that are attributed to god because they are too ridiculous to accept as fact.

As far as the scientific accuracy, there is a thread posted here, that was once posted on h2o, that covers the inaccuracies of such a statement. In fact it even goes as far as using the bible to contradict these so called biblical/scientific claims. As soon as i find it again i will post a reference to the author and title, and post it here for the information of anyone intersted.

As to the prophecies, it is very easy to write about something that occured years after the fact, and then say it had been "prophecized" earlier when anyone who can verify or oppose such is no longer around as a witness. You can claim that something occured and then rewrite it to fit your claim and say it is your "evidence" to such.

Too much weight is given to the bible as the main holy book, here in the western hemisphere. Many others exist and the only reason i feel we give it weight is because of convenience and because of conditioning. If we are to dismiss the others then why not dismiss the bible too, and if we are to accept the bible then we should accept the others too, keeping them all on the same level, without saying one is greater, holier, or even more inspired than another.

It seems to me, that a fair god would want all his children to have the same opportunity, without discriminating, among the many nations and cultures of the world.

CHUCK

PS. Simon i started this thread before you reorganized the site anything related i will post appropriately next time, thanks.

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The JW's Have Targeted My Co-Worker!

by SanFranciscoJim in

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i have long believed in separating my personal life from life in the workplace, and rarely discuss matters of a private nature with co-workers.. i work with a woman who has a young daughter (early 20's) who has terminal cancer and probably only weeks left to live.

i've known this woman for a number of years and know her to be sensitive, and compassionate, having a deep faith in god.. i just found out last week that another one of my co-workers is a jw.

i have no intention of "outing" myself to her and she has no idea that she works side-by-side with someone who was disfellowshipped 21 years ago.. my concern is this: today, the jw co-worker approached me and asked me if i know where my other co-worker lives "because i'd like to talk with her about something very important".

dark clouds

Indeed let her know what the dilio is. . .

My mother was scammed and conned right after her divorce in '71, during her grief she fell for it hook, line and sinker. Not to say that this woman will fall victim also, but she deserves the right to know in a tactful way, which i have no doubt it will be done so. . .

As far as letting your coworker not know that you once were borg, good call. I made the mistake of telling a co-worker of mine that i was a jw, shortly after i faded out, she noticed the changes in me and saw me smoking during lunch one day, afterwards the lectures and attitude began. . .i was 20 at the time so she felt the need to councel me, being the elders wife that she was. . .

CHUCK

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"God's"=Brooklyn's view...

by Norm in

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dark clouds

37

after so long....

by 30years in

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this is my first post in any network such as this.

i have been "lurking" around the "apostate" sites for the last year or so.

i am glad i have!

dark clouds

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after so long....

by 30years in

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this is my first post in any network such as this.

i have been "lurking" around the "apostate" sites for the last year or so.

i am glad i have!

dark clouds

welcome 30:

this is a phenominal place to say the least,

and to all the new comers welcome also. . . .

BORN AGAIN APOSTATE AND PAGAN
CHUCK

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What now?

by agent2863 in

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most of the people on this message board i've noticed are either ex-jw's or in the process.

good for you!

it is sad to see all the hurt & pain & confusion that the org has caused, and continues to cause.

dark clouds

AGENT:

no insult taken, just my opinion and you know the cliche on those right? anywho i love ths place, and i love a good discussion about anything that will broaden my perspective. . .

CHUCK